GM B-Body Forum, 77-79 Caprice/Impala Forum

Join Now If Your A 1977- 1979 Caprice or Impala owner or other GM B-Body owner!!!
Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/BBodyForum?ref=hl

Join the forum, it's quick and easy

GM B-Body Forum, 77-79 Caprice/Impala Forum

Join Now If Your A 1977- 1979 Caprice or Impala owner or other GM B-Body owner!!!
Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/BBodyForum?ref=hl

GM B-Body Forum, 77-79 Caprice/Impala Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
GM B-Body Forum, 77-79 Caprice/Impala Forum

A forum for the owners and enthusiasts of General Motors B-Bodies from 1977-1990, but dedicated to the owners of 1977-1979 Impalas and Caprices. Join up now!


5 posters

    Introduction/ Project Thread

    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:47 pm

    Hello everyone.  I am new to this forum, and thought I would talk a little about my car which is under project.  My 1985 Delta 88 was passed on to me from my dad when I was 18 and started going to college.  When gas prices started soaring though, I got myself an Oldsmobile Alero, and completely stopped using my Delta 88 (Worst mistake ever).  Now, seven years later, I have started working on the car again.

    At the moment, I am swapping my 307 for a 455ci engine from a 1976 Buick Electra which I have slightly modified.  Along with the engine, I am also swapping in a th400 from the same Electra and an 8.5 rear from a 1995 Buick Roadmaster.

    After that, I am going to work on my suspension.  I am going to replace my oem springs with lowering springs from a 1990's Impala, install kyb exel g shocks, sway bars from an early 90's Buick Roadmaster, Roadmaster frame brace, and possibly poly bushings for the sway bars.

    Once all that is done, my funds are pretty much done for, and I have to start saving up for a much needed paint job Laughing

    Also, I have a quick question. Does anyone know the steering box ratio my OEM Delta has?  Is it an adequate performance ratio?

    I will post pics of my project next week.
    solo79
    solo79
    *Senior Moderator*
    *Senior Moderator*
    10th Year Anniversary
    10 years of being a member on our forum!


    Posts : 458
    Join date : 2013-02-06
    Location : Kentucky

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  solo79 Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:51 pm

    Welcome to the Forum. Sounds like you have a nice project underway. A 455 will be a nice power upgrade over the 307, a very nice power upgrade. Looking forward to pics of your Delta 88!
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:40 am

    Thank you for the welcome. I have been slowly working on this since July with the guidance of a mechanic, and am hoping to finish the engine swap by this week, at which time, I will post pics.  This past Friday, the 8.5 rear was installed.  The only minor setback I had was the lug nuts being too small, so tomorrow I am getting new lug nuts.
    avatar
    chevybaby
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 19
    Join date : 2015-10-09

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  chevybaby Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:04 am

    welcome. and the steering on those is ok, but kinda loose for performance imo.
    if yu wanted to tighten it up, you could see about one from a 9c1 caprice. i had a
    95 9c1 and steering was 100% tighter than my 80's deltas and caprices i had.
    Sweet Seventy9
    Sweet Seventy9
    *Senior Moderator*
    *Senior Moderator*
    Helpful and Responsive Member!
    Very active with responding and helping other members with questions and concerns.
    10th Year Anniversary
    10 years of being a member on our forum!


    Posts : 973
    Join date : 2013-11-03
    Location : Upstate NY

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  Sweet Seventy9 Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:59 am

    Welcome!

    Back in the day we used to swap the steering box with one from a Camaro with F41 or a Firebird with WS6. Waaaaay better steering!

    Swapping to a much smaller steering wheel is an option also. It gives the feeling of tighter steering because of the smaller diameter. Less arm motion to turn the steering wheel with increased turning motion of the wheels/tires vs. the stock one.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:31 am

    chevybaby wrote:welcome. and the steering on those is ok, but kinda loose for performance imo.
    if yu wanted to tighten it up, you could see about one from a 9c1 caprice. i had a
    95 9c1 and steering was 100% tighter than my 80's deltas and caprices i had.

    Thanks.  I will try to see if I can find a 9c1 steering box.  Any idea if the steering wheel stops in the same place as the OEM delta?  I have heard that swapping the steering box can affect that.

    Sweet Seventy9 wrote:Welcome!

    Back in the day we used to swap the steering box with one from a Camaro with F41 or a Firebird with WS6. Waaaaay better steering!

    Swapping to a much smaller steering wheel is an option also. It gives the feeling of tighter steering because of the smaller diameter. Less arm motion to turn the steering wheel with increased turning motion of the wheels/tires vs. the stock one.  

    The steering wheel idea is awesome.  If I have trouble finding a steering box, I will go that route.
    avatar
    chevybaby
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 19
    Join date : 2015-10-09

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  chevybaby Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:49 am

    not 100% sure but it should be ok since both the b bodys use the same steering linkage parts, as long as its set right. and it shouldnt be too hard, i see alot of 9c1s in the junkyard. just make sure its not all worn out. or the parts store should stock one new
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:36 am

    chevybaby wrote:not 100% sure but it should be ok since both the b bodys use the same steering linkage parts, as long as its set right. and it shouldnt be too hard, i see alot of 9c1s in the junkyard. just make sure its not all worn out. or the parts store should stock one new

    Cool.  That makes sense.  Besides that, now that I think of it, they are similar in length, so steering should be similar.  Thanks

    On another note, the engine and transmission were finally put in the car today.  I need a new transmission mount though, because the mount that came with the th400 was completely broken.  Tomorrow, I will also check how much shorter the driveshaft needs to be.  Hopefully, there will be a car or truck at the junkyard that will have the size I need, because I really don't want to cut mine.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:24 pm

    Here are some pics that I have gotten from my project so far.

    Here is the car when I took it to the shop.
    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20150714_0041

    This is the engine I got at the junkyard.
    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20150714_0051

    Differential after changing lube and a fresh coat of paint.
    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20150725_001

    307 is out.
    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20150727_003

    Engine almost ready.
    Introduction/ Project Thread E3eb0625-04fb-49a7-a6cd-84fa2080ff55

    I will add more pics these week.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:52 am

    I just uploaded more pics.  These show the engine in the car already.

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151027_18_36_55_Pro1

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151031_0031

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151031_0041

    Right now, financing is limiting me to no a/c and no paint job lol  For the moment, the swap, and small suspension upgrades will make do. Laughing
    G_S77
    G_S77
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 22
    Join date : 2015-08-12

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  G_S77 Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:48 am

    Welcome to the forum!  Looks like you've got things well in hand.  I'll be following this for sure
    solo79
    solo79
    *Senior Moderator*
    *Senior Moderator*
    10th Year Anniversary
    10 years of being a member on our forum!


    Posts : 458
    Join date : 2013-02-06
    Location : Kentucky

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  solo79 Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:14 pm

    Looking good! Keep up the great work!
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:15 am

    Thank you.  I will make sure to keep posting pics.  I really believe/ hope my car will be running by this weekend.  I was lucky enough to find a driveshaft just the right size for my swap.  Tomorrow, I will pick up the u joint for the driveshaft we found at the junkyard, after which only small details will remain.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:29 am

    My swap is now officially complete.  Yesterday, I got insurance for it, and drove it around a bit.  It revs a bit high for highway driving, but the car feels amazingly light.  The only thing pending is the switch for the passing gear.  I still have not had the need for it though lol

    Here is a small clip of the idle.  I just recorded a couple of minutes ago, so the video is dark.  Audio is loud and clear though.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l43y6VOpgI4

    Tomorrow, I will get some pics during the day.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:13 pm

    Here are the pics of the finished engine swap.  

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151118_0011

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151118_0021

    I don't really have somewhere where I can take pics of my exhaust, but if I find somewhere to take them though, I will.  The way my exhaust shop did it, is they got dual 2 1/4" exhaust pipes, and ran them together all the way to the crossmember.  After the crossmember, the drivers side exhaust pipe got a 45 degree bend that went to the driver's side and went all the way to the back.  I am sure it will be tough to do driveshaft work, but hopefully I won't have do do that anytime soon.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:07 pm

    I just had my lowering springs installed.  I went with Vogtland impala ss springs, and KYB Exel G shocks.  They are okay.  In my opinion though, my car went a bit too low.  My car now scrapes a bit on most speed bumps.  This isn't really my daily driver though, so it's okay.  Handling improved a lot.  My car no longer feels like I am driving a boat lol  Here is a pic.

    Introduction/ Project Thread WP_20151128_0011

    This will be my last mod in a while.  When I get a more funding, my project will resume with sway bars, paint, and interior.
    oldsbuickhybrid
    oldsbuickhybrid
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    Active Member (Tier 2)
    5th Year Anniversary
    Celebrating 5 years of being our member!


    Posts : 40
    Join date : 2015-10-25
    Location : Texas

    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  oldsbuickhybrid Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:39 am

    Update: I was having overheating issues, so I swapped out my fans. A co-worker recommended I use the Dorman replacement fans from a 2005 Chrysler 300, and they worked like a charm. Also, I managed to find a shop for which I wouldn't have to sale my kidneys to do all the bodywork Very Happy So it is in the process of getting painted. I will post update pics soon.

    Sponsored content


    Introduction/ Project Thread Empty Re: Introduction/ Project Thread

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:49 am