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    GM 8.5 10 bolt swap from a 96 impala ss

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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:52 pm

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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:23 pm

    After looking at the new master I see the rear part of the reservoir is larger , that makes it the primary, and the thread pitch is smaller 9/16 18 but the old primary line is 1/2 20.
    O'Reilly has "standard to dual master cylinder" sae type adapter fitting (1/2 20-> 9/16 18 and vise Vera) but I will still need to cross the tubing so the run to the appropriate port on the combination valve
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    Post  GM B-Body Forum Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:49 am

    I didnt know they switched the ports around, your best bet maybe to get some of those adapters, and perhaps a few pre flared lines from oreilly also, i would runs those lines just to the combi valve if you need to change the size of the lines, but if you can get away with just using adapters then that would be even better. When i do my brake swap im just going to use an ss and 9c1 master cylinder and convert all my lines to metric, im also going to get a combi valve from wilwood, and mount it just below the master cyl and off the frame.
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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:43 pm

    Well the difference between the master of the 90 Caprice and ss is 1 1/8 bore vs 1 1/4 bore but the look like the same reservoir
    I did check and they do have fitting adapters so I'm gonna do that
    Also got a chrome combination valve with the original thread pitch for the lines we have already , its for disk/disk application and only $50!
    Bought one for disk/drum when my combi valve started leaking and worked badass
    I can lock up the brakes and stop quicker also helps with the burnouts now I can make clouds taller than trees with the tires
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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:32 am

    Had a question about driveshaft length

    I grabbed a rear end from a 95' impala among with the driveshaft

    the impala has a lt1/4l60e

    My 77 caprice has a 350sbc/th350(I think, could be a hydrmatic 250)

    Anyone who's done this 8.5" 10 bolt swap can list the driveshaft length they ended up with also with their engine/transmission combo

    Thanks guys.. I'm really hoping I don't have to cut the 95' driveshaft since its balanced to 140 mph stock
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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:58 am

    I measured the driveshaft from the u joint ear to u joint ear it was 56"
    The trans yoke(?) On the trans side of the drive shaft measured ear to the shaft tip 6 1/4" and yoke shaft (tube with the splines that connect to transmission) 3 3/4"
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    Post  HeavyChevy77 Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:27 pm

    Th-350 dimensions
    6"tail shaft 27 11/16" length
    9" tail shaft 30 11/16" length

    4l60e dimensions
    30 3/4" length

    Can u guys list what length driveshaft u ended up with
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    Post  MCMLXXXI Caprice Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:56 pm

    Good work! I realize this thread is old, but still interesting. I still have the original 7.5" in my 1981, but I've had it redone with new bearings, seals, and suspension bushings, added the SSBC disc brake kit, and changed from the stock 2.41:1 gearing to 3.73:1. Still running it open differential though. Ran it behind a 500+ 454 big block for a while, still hasn't blown up, but, I'd definitely love to get myself a nice 8.5" rear end with posi (probably with either 3.42:1 or 3.73:1 gearing. Definitely willing to fix one up, as long as it's not a lost cause. I bought the rebuild kit from Richmond, and it had all the seals and bearings, as well as the 3.73:1 ring and pinion set, and I'd be willing to do the same for the 8.5" if I could get one. Hell, I'd even go for one of those heavy aluminum rear covers with the main bearing preload bolts, and I'd upgrade to a disc brake kit with aluminum calipers! There are so many more aftermarket things available for an 8.5" as compared to the 7.5", and it can surely be done for much less than the cost of a brand new bolt-in Ford 9" from Moser Engineering...
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    Post  terry cronk Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:58 pm

    When I got my 8.5, it came from a 1992 Buick Roadmaster.

    I tore it down completely. Had it blast, cooked and powder coated.

    New 3.73 gears, all the bearings and seals. New axles also.

    I went with the stock 11" drums. There are two types. One was 23lbs. The other 17lbs. I chose the later.

    All new brake springs, shoes and e-brake cables.

    Added poly upper bushings w/new upper/lower control arms and the sway bar.

    Not sorry.
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    Post  Z77impala Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:11 pm

    i swapped in an 8.5 10 bolt from a 95 9c1 caprice to my 77 impala 4 door. driveshaft from the 9c1 was the correct length, didnt have to mod it all. i didnt clean it up or anything, just replaced the axle seals and bearings. its a 3.08, open diff. i swapped out the master cylinder and proportioning valve as well, had to run adaptors and flare a bunch of my own fittings to make it work. also installed the aftermarket valve kit for the master to change the bias for a more rear-disc-friendly 65-35 front-rear. with 275s on all four corners, thing brakes HARD. i modified a brake booster out of a 02 suburban and bolted that up, which made it even better, almost too much assist. but to be short in writing, the whole rearend bolted right up, didnt have to mod anything.

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